New Idea For the Army

[Selden]

Well with having people that help increas membership activity we need to have some senior NCO's i say that SGT-MSG be easier to reach then so the have better command over junior officers...I can think of a lot more ideas.

How about this, We only add the Position of Company First Sergeant and only add the ranks of SFC and SGM. There for, there will only be one NCO per company that is a SFC or higher that is the most active member other than the CO and XO. They will do excatly what i said before. And they will report in to the CO on the activities and just plan activity level of the company members.

[LCP Appo]

We still don´t have enough members.
Many company´s don´t have more than 1-2 really active members so instead you would have to give the CFS to someone hwo could instead be a XO or indeed even higher as time progress, thereby hampering their carrier.

[COL Longstreet]

Would also opt against the company-sergeant. We just have much too low manpower for that. Also I always expect the senior-NCOs to help and guide the lower ones.

The Brigade-sergeant could be an idea, but also difficult at this manpower. So as long as our 2 brigades aren´t at 30+ members each and a 3rd brigade is created I´d say no.

Am completely for the Command Sergeant-Major or howeever we´d call it. Could be a great help to all the NCOs and a good midleman between the members and commanders for any matters the NCOs would have. Well, the idea is really good, as I also proposed to create such a position (position, but not rank) to the Army-Command some months ago.

[LCP Appo]

Well if they didn´t listen to Longstreet they probably won´t listen to Calder either. Still, I gues you could try.

[COL Longstreet]

Calder? Any Calder-post here? Aren´t meaning Selden?

Beside, it´s not about listening; it´s about considering the use in the actual situation, not in general. And you probably overrate my and underesteminate Calder´s influence on the GE.

[Selden]

Am completely for the Command Sergeant-Major or howeever we´d call it. Could be a great help to all the NCOs and a good midleman between the members and commanders for any matters the NCOs would have. Well, the idea is really good, as I also proposed to create such a position (position, but not rank) to the Army-Command some months ago.

Well Sir, as a last suggestion i would say...yes The position of Sergeant Major of the Army could be created that and olny that. And of course this Position is the epitome of what it means to be a Sergeant. Oversees all Non-Commissioned Officers. Serves as the senior enlisted advisor and consultant to the Army Command. The SMA may be contacted, by Junior Officers with any general questions or concerns about the Army. Holds the rank of Master Sergeant, and Sergeant Major after a long and dedicated service.


Last We should still add in the ranks of SFC and SGM just to give activie members a chance to reach a high rank before getting a commission. Of cousre the SMA would be some one who chooses to be or stay a NCO that works closely with the Army Command.

[Jacob Jansen]

A well thought up idea Corporal. However its not the first time it has been talked about. I think its the 3rd time if I am correct.

Anyhow, here is my response.

Yes, your suggestion would work out well if a Company had 100-130 soldiers in it like the US Army. However, we have 10. There is no need for a Company 1SGT. Everything you said he/she would do is or can be done by the XO.

This also applies for the Brigade 1SGT.

Sergeant First Class and Sergeant Major were left out of the Army rank system because it would be very rare that a soldier would ever last long enough as a noncom to reach them. Most active soldiers are promoted to officer ranks quickly.

Command Sergeant-Major was not approved for the same reason as the above Company/Brigade 1SGT. We do not have the members to support it.

I am glad you are putting time and thought into the Army. However this idea would not work out well at the moment.

[Jacob Jansen]

Well if they didn´t listen to Longstreet they probably won´t listen to Calder either. Still, I gues you could try.

By "They" I assume you are talking about me..

Just keep in mind.. Calder was my right hand man when the Army was first developed. Most of what you see now was brainstormed, planed and put into play by the 2 of us.

[LCP Appo]

I´m really sorry Jansen I don´t know what I was thinking about.
I meant Selden not Calder. There is a big difference between them I know.
And to the idea, I can only agree with Jansen, we have to few members.

[Selden]

Well that is why only have a Sergeant Major of the Army and make all the ranks easier to achive...Read my new version then you can make your final desicion General...

From: Corporal Jeremy Selden
To: The Imperial Army
Date: 2007-04-25
Subject: New Position/ Ranks Version 2

New Ranks:

Sergeant First Class
Sergeant Major

New Positions:

Sergeant Major of the Army

Details on the New Ranks an Positions

The Information on the ranks and position is what will be shown in the GE:ER’s Officer Manual, if the ranks and position are accepted. I will show them as if they where part of the Manual. The Position I will show as if there where in the Manual but with ID-Lines.

Ranks and Rank Insignia

Galactic Empire - Empire Reborn:
Imperial Officer Manual

Home: Army: Ranks -- Sergeant First Class (SFC)

A Sergeant First Class is the first rank for one who can act as a Company First Sergeant. Is a Key advisor to the Company CO and XO on the activities of his/her troopers. Generally has 8 months of Army experience and puts it to use by making quick, accurate decisions in the best interests of the Soldiers and the Company.

Galactic Empire - Empire Reborn:
Imperial Officer Manual

Home: Army: Ranks -- Sergeant Major (SGM)

The Most honorary rank of a NCO, the Out most respect is given to the loyal officers who climbs to this rank without attaining a position. This rank is reserved for the Sergeant Major of the Army. Has up to 1 year of Army experience, and has some command experience.

Galactic Empire - Empire Reborn:
Imperial Officer Manual

Home: Imperial Army: Position

Imperial Army officer who receive promotion past the rank of Sergeant Major may progress through the following "command positions"...

Positions within units...
 Company XO
 Company CO
 Brigade XO
 Brigade CO
 Corps Commander

Division Command positions... *
 Sergeant Major of the Army
 Captain of the Royal Guard
 Master-at-Arms
 Commander of the Army [HC]

* Positions indicated with [HC] are afforded a seat on the GE's High Command, and link directly to their official High Command position descriptions.

Galactic Empire - Empire Reborn:
Imperial Officer Manual

Home: Army Positions -- Sergeant Major of the Army

Official Title(s)

 Sergeant Major of the Army
 Sergeant Major
 Command Sergeant Major

Position Description

There’s only one Sergeant Major of the Army. This Position is the epitome of what it means to be a Sergeant. Oversees all Non-Commissioned Officers. Serves as the senior enlisted/NCO advisor and consultant to the Army Command. The SMA may be contacted, by Junior Officers with any general questions or concerns about the Army. Holds the rank of Sergeant Major

ID Line
SGM Kardock/ SMA// Imperial Army

Promotion and Report Ins:

Also for promotion authority, the SMA can promote up to SSG. The SMA sends the promotion notice to the COA and MAA.

When it comes to Reporting In and Reports, Trooper now have to report in to their Company CO and the SMA. Troopers must have a detailed list of what they have done for the SMA. SMA makes a Completely detailed report on the activities of all the Troopers within the Army, usually is a Bi-Weekly report.

Ranks PFC-SSG

The ranks of Private First Class to Staff Sergeant should be easier to reach now of course mostly likely members will choose to move up to the Commissioned Officers but for those who have the ability but no open positions, or just elect to stay a NCO can advance to SFC and MSG.

The number of months refers to how long since they have entered

Private First Class- Entry rank
Lance Corporal- Promoted automatically after 2 months or 1 Month of activity
Corporal- Promoted after a period of decent activity (2-4 months)
Sergeant- Promoted after 4 months of medium activity
Staff Sergeant- Promoted after 6-7 months of activity or 5 months of High Activity
Sergeant First Class- Promoted after 8-10 months of Medium activity
Master Sergeant- Must have done something very rewarding as SFC and must have held that rank and a decent activity level for 4 months
Sergeant Major- Reserved for the Sergeant Major of the Army Position

By this scale I would say that I should be at least a Staff Sergeant or Sergeant First Class by now, because I have held a decent activity level and have served 10 months. This scale could make members be like “hey if I’m more active I can reach a cool rank like Sergeant in just a few month.” Which in fact would help the activity problem, and by more people getting active it could mean they are recruiting new people which would help with the manpower. I’m just say lets give it a try it just might work…But as always if the Army Command decides on this they make the final call on the promotion scale, and so on.

Requirements for Sergeant Major of the Army Position

Must have served One full year in the Army
Must have once held, or still hold a command position
Must have Email turnabout of 48-72 hours
Must have constant contact with Army Command and Troopers
Must be able to make weekly/ Bi-weekly Status reports
Must be able to complete most duties & principles of a unit commander
Must have never been moved to reserves due to AWOL
Must have take Army Officers Exam and Company Leadership Exam, Scores higher than 90%

[CM Jamie]

Ok fine fine, but we need more members!

[Laithlis]

In my opinion it's always been a strength of the GE to largely tie ranks to position instead of giving them out like candy and ending up with a very distorted distribution of ranks. Just take a look at EH. Instead, in my opinion, we should use medals more as incentive to activity. They shouldn't be given out for doing nothing either, but getting a MoM for a job well done while waiting for an opening & promotion definitely makes one feel his efforts are being appreciated.

Though, as one of the very few people (my clone in the old Stormtrooper Legion) to have ever held the rank of Sergeant Major in the GE, at the time the highest rank in the Legion not reserved for the leader of the Legion, I do feel a bit of nostalgia about the thought of resurrecting the rank

[LCP Appo]

I still don´t think that we have enough members for the SFC.
And waiting 8 months? That could mean like 1 year without a CO and XO for some companys. For I assume that you should have even more experience to become CO.
I can´t believe were still on topic.

[Munro Burton]

Since I've joined the Empire, only about three people reached SGT/SSG without being an ALT or JLT first.

The real problem is not lack of positions and ranks. It's the lack of activity and membership. Adding enough ranks and positions for everyone to have an unique combination won't change this. We already have four or six empty command spots which need to be filled, for goodness' sake. If we can't find those four or six people, where do you expect us to dig up another four or nine(depending on which version of this idea you're pushing now)?

As Laith has pointed out, one of the GE's selling points is a limited rank range - if you want to be a General while being a regular trooper, go join the Emperor's Hammer. Rank goes hand in hand with positions, what you should be angling for are medals, since they represent your contributions, skills and abilities.

Having said that, I think I'll go dig up the Iron variant thread...

[LCP Appo]

Couldn´t agree more.
Once we have filled the empty command spots we can start debating about new ranks and positions. As for now it´s just a waste of time.