Big battles XWA?

Munro Burton · Post by **Munro Burton** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:32 pm

Now that's art. Just look at it. Emptiness. Nothingness.

The potential is amazing. Anything can be done with that nothingness. Anything.

Post by **Jagged Fel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:15 am

And the said thing is, people have been paid outrageous amounts of money for something as stupid as a blank canvas.

Post by **Vortagh** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:38 am

Bane: I am sure you guys have the same proverb in english that we have in German: "Art lies in the eye of the watcher". To me throwing paint at a canvas is not art. It expresses nothing, it shows nothing (only that some people have too much time and others too much money) and is dumb.

Reservist Foley · Post by **Reservist Foley** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:00 pm

We have the phrase "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or something like that.

Post by **Fel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:07 pm

Vortagh wrote:Bane: I am sure you guys have the same proverb in english that we have in German: "Art lies in the eye of the watcher". To me throwing paint at a canvas is not art. It expresses nothing, it shows nothing (only that some people have too much time and others too much money) and is dumb.

My mother agrees with you on this one, Vort - She says that the Mona Lisa is great art. She would gladly take that. But random paint everywhere is... what kids do, not the work of great artists.

MCHuskie · Post by **MCHuskie** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:08 pm

http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=27072

And the text: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ig206/oak_tree.html

I reckon that counts as art. It makes you think. And it's funny.

Post by **Jagged Fel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:24 pm

That is a 5 minute Photoshop job, if that. My vote is "no".

Munro Burton · Post by **Munro Burton** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:43 pm

That's not art. That's a joke. End of story.

The things some people will do to get their name publicized...

COL Nexant · Post by **COL Nexant** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:30 pm

why end the story..enjoy the humor that he reminds me of a certain ex-member in the way he so believes in something that isnt there so obviously it isnt a one time instance of the behaviour

Kenseu · Post by **Kenseu** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:09 am

Vort: Rembrandt is the man. Surrealism and modern art bores the hell out of me.

You know, I saw a very intresting book a few months ago espousing the argument that modern art is not art because it does not strive to be aesthetically pleasing. I was going to read it, but, you know, it kinds belonged to another library and they get a little pissy when you just take their books.*

*The college library I work in has an inter-library loan system that we use all the time.

COL Nexant · Post by **COL Nexant** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:54 am

back to the original topic too if you make a massive XWA battle It will inspire me to plug my joystick in for once

Syrtaras · Post by **Syrtaras** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:50 pm

I think the difference between art in the days of Rembrandt and DÃ¼rer and modern art is, as Kenseu has pointed out, that modern art does not try to produce aesthetically pleasing "eye candy" for people to stare at in awe and go "Ooooh, nice!".

Instead, modern art always tries to create something that has not been there before, as well as stuff that makes you think and go "Eh?".

The problem is, that if today's artists were to create paintings like Da Vinci or sculptures like Michelangelo, it would immediately be considered an uncreative, cheap rip-off of the original.

As such, in order to leave a lasting impression and to be mentioned in future books on the history of art, all today's artists can do is to create something unique. Which gets increasingly difficult the more variants of art pop into existance.

Another aspect is that os technological progress. Back in the days, DÃ¼rer's works were especially revolutionary because of his advanced techniques. Today, these have been around for a while, and, more importantly, we now have digital cameras to produce realistic images of the world - there's no real need to paint them anymore.

All in all, seeing how neither showing off your skills of an artist, nor copying the styles of artists past is really anything that will get you a lot of praise (or, on a more personal level, even so much as satisfaction), it's really up to the artists creativity. And the fact that people will always rather look at eye candy than think, well, this is the crux of the matter.

;-)

Post by **Jagged Fel** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:33 am

Syrtaras wrote:Which gets increasingly difficult the more variants of art poop into existance.

fixed

Qorl · Post by **Qorl** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:56 pm

I'm not bumping the art topic, but the original topic. Vort? What was it that where suppose to make me wet my pants?

Post by **Vortagh** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:02 am

Yes and thanks to Fel and forcing me to do other stuff, there won't be for a while.

Seriously, there MUST be something or somebody out that/who does not want me to finish those missions, because for the fast 4 years whenever I have been starting to working on those, something else came up.