New Legion Ranks!

Post by **Vortagh** » Wed May 19, 2004 5:51 am

P.S.: I hereby offer my assistance to the HC for implementing this.

P.P.S.: If this gets implemented, I want the LOP that the GA still owes me. ;) :P

Post by **Fel** » Wed May 19, 2004 10:46 am

Right, well, we'll definitely consider it seriously... let me track down Pol and we'll discuss it.

COL Longstreet · Post by **COL Longstreet** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:11 pm

Sol: This conversation was interesting, but there are true words in it.

You get a rank you deserve, yes thatÂ´s true, but who can decide this? You? A council of members? Or the COs? IÂ´m for the COs! And itÂ´s impossible to create new positions for someone who wants to hold a rank without being in a position where this rank is needed or not, if there is no open position you have to wait. And donÂ´t think you could get a big promotion and carreer jump just because you are active, you should walk trough the ranks slowly learning whatÂ´s your job and not overpulling other members with the same rights as you have. YOU NEED TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beside this, EH sucks, I think the Navy ranks should stay as they are!

Post by **Vortagh** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:13 pm

If you base your conclusion on "EH sucks", I have to say that I am VERY glad that you aren't making the decision.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:22 pm

Fel: Thank you considering it seriously, but if i may say,... think of it with the long term goals that will come of it.

Medals are nice and all, but they go only so far, dont get us wrong... keep sending them to earn it... but you cant award a IVC for some one who has shown great service to the GE... because they can only go so far

But i still feel some of you dont understand where i'm getting at: dont just throws ranks to people who have been here years months so on an so forth... What i'm saying is that this system will allow the best and the 1s who have earned it...

Cadet - Academy

Flight member: Ensign, Lt Junior Grade, Lieutenant
(and maybe a Senior Ensign in there)

Flight Leader: Lieutenant Commander/Commander

Squadron leader: Line Captain to Major (or a Lt. Col/Col)

be makeing it Line Captain you can fix the 2 captains on 1 ship problem, all you have to do is flip it so that captain is higher that line captain OR have major and Lt. Col/Col

now... this puts the 1O in a problem spot right... No No... a first officer is just that a First Officer this dosent mean that they have to be the second highest in rank next to the Captain... i dont remember any where in the SW moives or EU that it says that an 1O has to the second highest of ships crew... so just let them be majors, line captain, Lt. Col, Col... but if you want... take line captain or Col out and have that as the 1O rank...

Vort: thanks... i'm glad some 1 shares my ideas

Post by **Vortagh** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:27 pm

No.

Line Captain is a naval rank.
There *is* no "two captains on one ship" problem. A typical US aircraft carrier, will have quite a few captains onboard.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:46 pm

"but who can decide this" have a councel that includes the HC, the ISB Gen, and maybe even the PoJ... or just the HC.

"you should walk trough the ranks slowly learning whatÂ´s your job and not overpulling other members with the same rights as you have"
I have and i will...

WHAT IS EVERY 1S PROBLEM????

Yes i would like a higher rank, Yes i do want to promote fast, Yes i dont know everthing, Yes i'm still new, Yes i also think some 1 should wait for there time...

but

the time should be when you earn it... not when there is an opening

Because i want to help the GE dosent mean that i want to help the GE to help myself... i want to help the people in the GE like me and i want to hepl people who have been in longer that i and dont have a rank they have Earned because of the prossess we are useing

"And donÂ´t think you could get a big promotion and carreer jump just because you are active" thats not where i'm getting at

some of you think i'm self centered.... BA HUM BUG.... i'm not... there is no comsperacy to take over the GE or anything like that... as i have said before i'm just trying to help the GE...

if the EH sucks... then all gameing teams sucks... they have a good set up, good ideas, good inteanchens, they have alot of good things.... but they also has bad things

.............AS ALL OF THIES GAMEING THINGS DO, they are not perfict........ we are not perfict........we learn by makeing mistakes its how we all learn....... but at a point, we cant go or learn any more till we correct thoes problems....

dose any 1 understand where i'm getting at?

COL Longstreet · Post by **COL Longstreet** » Wed May 19, 2004 3:23 pm

As always sorry if my words sounded rude, but this is my opinion!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed May 19, 2004 4:32 pm

i dont mean to be rude either... as you said... I'm just voicing my opinion

COL Longstreet · Post by **COL Longstreet** » Wed May 19, 2004 5:56 pm

Yes, and IÂ´m glad that itÂ´s like this. I believe you and I hope you can help, but donÂ´t expect too much changement authority from the COs.

YouÂ´ll find something to do, as well as everyone who really seeks does. IÂ´m thinking of writing an academy course, I just need more possible ideas!

Malloy · Post by **Malloy** » Wed May 19, 2004 8:23 pm

a)I agree with Solidis and Vortagh.The system isn't effective.If we do happen to implement a new system;mercifully soon,I hope,there will still be inital problems,but it's going to be easier to work out the newer small kinks from the get-go,than the monster mess we have now.

b)To quote Vortagh..."So again, I propose the system that you guys should seriously think about:
Cadet - Academy
Ensign to Lieutenant - Flight member
Lieutenant Commander/Commander -Flight Leader
Captain to Major (Everything else would be overkill in my eyes) - Squadron leader."

*Using Real-Life Instances*

There's a bit of a design flaw with Squadron Leaders.Having a high Mid-Grade officer such as a Captain would be silly.Here it would be better off to use a real-life prespective and have a Lt.Commander or Commander as a Squadron Leader.However,I cannot find any such instance of a Captain as a Squadron leader,so this is could be one of a few flaws in my arguement.

c)Here's an Idea for the acdemy course.If this course is for the Navy,how about putting some craft information for the new cadets to learn.It may seem hard to implement,but it could enchance realism,and educate the cadets more about what they'll be flying into combat.

pfc jan dodanna · Post by **pfc jan dodanna** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:03 am

i think that the new ranks are great

Jacob Jansen · Post by **Jacob Jansen** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:11 am

Nice pulling an old topic..

Post by **Jagged Fel** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:31 am

Bah, you beat me to it

Mike Mar · Post by **Mike Mar** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:40 pm

Gentlemen , go easy on the new kid!

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